Comments on: Nibiru, Climate Change, and Other Pseudoscience https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/ Brian Koberlein Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:26:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.3 By: Owen ONeill https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-6066 Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:38:52 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-6066 Hi Henry,

Natural groundwater contains fluorine compounds. Running streams and rivers contain fluorine compounds. Black tea has a very high quantity of fluorine compounds.

Dental fluorosis and skeletal fluorosis are much more common in areas WITHOUT water treatment (such as much of rural India) than in places WITH water treatment. There is a recommended daily quantity of fluorine compound intake, and many groundwater wells in the US actually have to have fluorine compounds REMOVED in order to bring them down to the recommended levels.

Flourine is like anything else — the dose makes the poison. In low doses, it is beneficial, but get too much and you are looking at having issues. Just like aspirin. Just like plain water. Drink too much plain old water, and you could die from disruption of brain functions.

The fact that high doses of fluorine compounds cause fluorosis is not evidence that fluorine compounds have no benefit.

Many places don’t need to treat their water with added or removed fluorine because it already has near the recommended amount.

Don’t think for a second that water in Europe doesn’t contain fluorine compounds. It does.

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By: hammer https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5707 Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:50:42 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5707 Normal fellows can learn how to gather up information and think critically about that information by studying – preferably from an early age onward. Evidence suggests fluoride is a pro. And this is not a con.

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By: hammer https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5705 Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:34:59 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5705 The basic problem is that scientific method/thinking is beyond the grasp (and willingness to think) of vast chunks of humanity. The notion of disproof and competing hypotheses, the true nature of theory and models, are all unacceptable to the above average minds who want “proof” and “certainty”. Add to that the volumes of knowledge out there to digest, and you now have a situation where the majority of people would simply prefer to “believe” rather than know or understand. I think we are screwed as a species, just like we’ve always been. It’s just that now we are large enough in population to actually have a real affect on the planet and we are still too dumb to understand and control it. Have a beer and relax b/c in 4 billion years, we are all toast anyway.

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By: J https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5585 Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:17:48 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5585 “Global Warming” is to Climate Change as “Obamacare” is to The Affordable Care Act. The exact same thing, but given a nickname by the media in an effort to simplify a more complex concept. I suppose we are living on different planets, because on mine the average temperature is consistently rising to new records. 2016 was the warmest on record. The reason scientists call it Climate Change is because the general warming of the global average temperature has tremendous effects on climate. The warming is not the biggest concern, it’s the floods, super storms, droughts, rising sea levels, disappearing glaciers, etc, etc that are of major concern.

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By: Brian Koberlein https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5584 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 23:46:33 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5584 If you were a regular reader, you’d know comments go into a moderated queue before being posted. It prevents spam. But bless your heart for trying.

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By: Brian Koberlein https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5583 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 23:44:55 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5583 Notice the framing and weasel words, dear readers!

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By: Malcolm B https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5582 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:05:25 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5582 You are a fraud Brian!
Isn’t Google wonderful – http://www.sjcrothers.plasmaresources.com/Koberlein.html
I wasn’t sure if climate change was really such a big deal but not until today did I have a post deleted before it was posted…
Busted!

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By: Malcolm B https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5581 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:56:07 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5581 “Climate change” is the new name for “Global Warming”. Maybe because there has been no significant warming now for 18 years, and counting. ‘We have a consensus’, and, ‘the science is settled’, according to one Albert Gore – so why is there a group of more than 30,000 scientists who disagree?
Anybody heard of Judith Curry?
Google her – it’s fascinating…

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By: Neil Dickson https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5558 Sun, 01 Oct 2017 17:27:26 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5558 There’s a fairly easy response that may help in cases like this. Just send them a link to Wikipedia’s “List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events” with no other text in the email, just the link. It contains hundreds of past predictions and only a handful of future ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

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By: Aldor Ericsson https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5554 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:32:26 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5554 “Not implemented” is not the same as “banned”. The only country in Europe that actually stopped fluoridation is Czech Republic. And the reason was public opposition, not scientific research.

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By: Aldor Ericsson https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5553 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:20:49 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5553 Since probably the Middle Ages, you cannot do ANY science without money. So if you agree that most of the science is good science, you have to agree that more often than not paying money for science produces scientifically sound research.

How to determine if the science is good or bad? By looking at methods and results. And if you are looking at methods and results anyway, do you still need to know where did the money come from? Absolutely not. Bad science remains bad even when good people pay for it, and vice versa.

That’s why vaccine example is so important. If you want to know are vaccines good or bad, you have to study if vaccines actually save lives or not. That’s the only thing that really matters. But you cannot do that by following the money. You only can do that by studying actual health statistics. Following the money just leads you astray.

Following the money is much easier than studying the issue in-depth, that’s why your argument is so appealing. But if you want to follow the money, you cannot do it only when you like the results, you have to do it all the time. That’s how science works.

As for your further arguments on the evils of money, let me remind you just one thing: before money were invented, you just killed the other guy and took his things. (Yes, I know about barter economy. It gave birth to a common measure of value (AKA money) very quickly.)

Last question: why the head of the coal industry lobby in America might disagree with climate change? Answer: why do we care? He’s not a climatologist, he should keep his opinion to himself. End of story.

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By: Henry https://briankoberlein.com/2017/09/19/nibriru-climate-change-pseudoscience/#comment-5551 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:51:11 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=6762#comment-5551 Who are you to say Fluoride in water is safe and effective? In Europe it is banned for decades because the opposite was proven to be true.

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