Comments on: What Makes A Planet A Planet? https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/ Brian Koberlein Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:22:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1 By: Brian Koberlein https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-4386 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:00:44 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-4386 Under your definition wouldn’t be a planet, since everything technically orbits not the Sun but the barycenter of system. For the IAU, they mean orbits the Sun in the traditional sense, including Jupiter. Jupiter is considered a planet, not a star, because it isn’t massive enough to generate nuclear fusion in its core.

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By: dell inspiron https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-4385 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 06:39:40 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-4385 base on the IAU definition of planet,
1. is orbit around the Sun,
2. has sufficient mass to assume hydrostatic equilibrium (a nearly round shape), and
3. has “cleared the neighborhood” around its orbit.

Doesn’t that make Jupiter not a planet too? It clearly doesn’t meet criteria #1
it so massive, it doesn’t obit the Sun but it orbit a point in-space together with the sun.

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By: Valbona Pupa https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3641 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:17:58 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3641 Hi Professor.On your post,you mention (esteroid belt).Yes.The entry of Milky Way have huge and thick esteroid spin around side by side and to the center a huge Planet.I have more to tell you,and I hope you can get this.

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By: genialityofevil https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3640 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:11:45 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3640 You can have binary planet systems but such a broad definition makes our system too complicated because the range of properties of what would be called ‘planets’ would just be too great. The whole point of scientific definitions is to make the delineation between objects clear.

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By: Jpatrick https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3639 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:28:19 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3639 Yes. Who says a planet can’t be a moon?

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By: genialityofevil https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3638 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:38:20 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3638 Which would make the Moon a planet, along with most of the other moons, including Charon. So now most of the planets are actually multi-planet systems and Jupiter starts looking like a mother hen.

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By: Jpatrick https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3637 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:20:32 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3637 The guidelines for defining a planet were drawn up as if there were no known exoplanets, although as of 2006, I think there were. More precisely, there were suspected exoplanets, but perhaps unconfirmed.

Since there are now thousands of known exoplanets, the guidelines have to be reviewed.

I’d be inclined to just adopt the single criterion of being in “hydrostatic equilibrium”, with some constraint on how spherical the object is. As long as the object’s mass is low enough not to begin fusion, it should be regarded as a planet. In this view, a planet doesn’t need a star, and it doesn’t need a cleared orbit.

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By: Raul https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3634 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:28:51 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3634 What about ROGUE (solitary) planets ? And about 3rd criterion, is it ACCRETION the unique process of formation of a planet (despite simulations)? TYSM

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By: genialityofevil https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3633 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:36:38 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3633 Is there a reason why inclination is not considered part of the definition? The regular planets are all within a few degrees of each other but Pluto (and Eris) are much further off the plane.

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By: Wayne https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3629 Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:14:14 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3629 Recently saw an article on Kepler finding a rocky planet half the diameter of Neptune – wonder how unusual this will be as we continue to detect more and more exoplanets: http://www.universetoday.com/127325/largest-rocky-world-found/

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By: Elver S.S. https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3627 Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:23:46 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3627 One correction to my question :)…it should read unnecessary.

.elver

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By: Elver S.S. https://briankoberlein.com/2016/02/15/makes-planet-planet/#comment-3626 Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:22:43 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=5724#comment-3626 Dr. Koberlein, one potential correction and one question:

Potential correction: This sentence…
Things get interesting if you drop the IAU’s _second_ criterion of needing to orbit the star

should read

Things get interesting if you drop the IAU’s _first_ criterion of needing to orbit the star

Question:
it seems that criteria 3 (clearing the neighborhood) makes criteria 2 (hydrostatic equilibrium) necessary. Is this a correct assumption?

.elver

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