Comments on: Cradle to Grave https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/ Brian Koberlein Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:22:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1 By: Brian Koberlein https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6317 Mon, 26 Nov 2018 19:28:45 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6317 the force of attraction between two bodies is not a very good definition

Sure it is. It’s both accurate and precise.

If mass is all it takes then why don’t huge ships like our space stations have gravity once they are out of the earths influence

They do have gravity. So do you and I, it’s just really weak. But you can use something like a Cavendish experiment to measure it.

Sometimes I think Science depends on math too much and though it is great to have math it limits the framework with which to explore new ideas.

No it doesn’t. You can have all the ideas you want. Math simply quantifies those ideas.

Does the spinning of a object contribute to its gravity?

It does a bit, since rotation is a form of energy, but not much.

Have the observed gravity on objects that aren’t spinning?

Yes. See the Cavendish experiment for one.

I mean technically mass is dependent on the distance between the molecules of a single object but doesn’t spinning an object really fast condense objects into a smaller space thus in effect making them more massive and thus having more gravity?

No, spinning an object tends to cause its equatorial region to expand a bit.

I can’t think of anything I have heard of with gravity that isn’t spinning.

That’s just because lots of things spin. But spin is not really related to gravity.

Sorry I guess I should go take some physics course or something?

Yes, if you’re interested in the subject.

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By: Jason https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6314 Mon, 26 Nov 2018 02:31:13 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6314 In other words, no one know what it is I mean the force of attraction between two bodies is not a very good definition. If mass is all it takes then why don’t huge ships like our space stations have gravity once they are out of the earths influence. Sometimes I think Science depends on math too much and though it is great to have math it limits the framework with which to explore new ideas. Basically just a way to make them feel like they are somehow genius because they can remember a bunch of formulas, if you ask me. Genus is only intelligence and intelligence is partially about memory but only partially. You can be a genus and not be good at math. In fact I though Einstein was a patent clerk. It was his imagination and from what I hear Einstein’s theory is flawed as well but it was based on Newton’s and others mathematicians formulas and it works so they have kept it but it is still a Theory. It would be like me saying 1+1=2 and so that is the theory of 2. But as we know their are many many ways in math to express the number 2. Does the spinning of a object contribute to its gravity? Have the observed gravity on objects that aren’t spinning? I mean technically mass is dependent on the distance between the molecules of a single object but doesn’t spinning an object really fast condense objects into a smaller space thus in effect making them more massive and thus having more gravity? Or is it just the objects mass? I can’t think of anything I have heard of with gravity that isn’t spinning. I mean even at the quantum level don’t all things spin or vibrate in some way? Sorry I guess I should go take some physics course or something? I just hate math. I can do it and it is comforting because it is so constrained and defined and predictable but maybe that is it because math is just a good test for theories. So it’s the last thing not the first people should be thinking about.

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By: Che Martiana https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6285 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:00:05 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6285 There is ZERO evidence that the BB happened, a hypothesis is all it is, since it does not meet the criteria of theory. To take that and jump to stating that it unequivocally happened is an insult to human intelligence and equivalent to religious fundamentalism. When taken as established fact and use it as a reference point for further scientific research and reasoning, including it to produce other evidence, is junk-science at best, on a par with selling snake-oil.

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By: Fletcher Helms Âû https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6274 Thu, 25 Oct 2018 01:15:42 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6274 The better question has some weird connotations baked in which don’t really work well with some of the ideas of GR and QFT. Mass turns out to be really hard to define in GR. Really hard. In the framework of GR, I will just say that I don’t know whether your question is well-defined, let alone what its answer is. In the Standard model, rest mass for most particles comes from an interaction with the Higgs field. I don’t have much beyond a pop-sci understanding of that part of the Standard Model, so to be honest that’s the most I could say about that.

In a sense, there is no way to understand what causes them. We can make a predictive model, but that’s the extent of it. There could be several models which reproduce equivalent predictions and we’d have no way to know which of them (if any) were correct. It’s actually debated by some people that there is no fundamental theory of everything, no ultimate underlying cause. I generally disagree with that idea, but I can’t really point to anything to prove it wrong. The way we currently model the fundamental forces is through the use of Lagrangian densities and tensors. There are tensors for all of the interactions in the Standard model.

Gravity is a local phenomenon, meaning its effects do not propagate faster than c. This is true for every force we know of, save for some footnotes about quantum effects. Relativity (both kinds) guarantees that the term “instantaneous” is meaningless. Different reference frames have different apparent instants.

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By: John Devens https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6249 Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:22:48 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6249 The better question is can mass be created from nothing? And to everyone opining on here, yes 4 forces, we understand their effects, but we don’t truly understand what actually causes them. (i.e. the sun’s gravity pulls on planets to cause orbits, we can even call the force of gravity a graviton if you wist, but what exactly is it? Does it act instantly or is it limited by the speed of light? For instance if the sun collided with another sun, how quick would Pluto feel the gravitational change?)

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By: Dan Wemple https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6190 Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:31:08 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6190 Thank you for this interesting conversation. Someone ask what is gravity and you replied “pixels”. What Pixels?

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By: Bonzadog https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6177 Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:25:39 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6177 We understand the effect of gravity , but as stated in the article, one does not really know what it is…except a change in the spacetime geometry. But why does mass warp spacetime?

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By: Brian Koberlein https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6173 Sat, 21 Jul 2018 16:38:50 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6173 “which IS theorized to have occurred from a single point in space” – No, no, no.

“the presumption is an expansion of space that was instantaneous” – No.

“If the expansion was instantaneous, why is it stated that space continues to expand?” – Because the evidence shows that it does.

The very foundation of classical physics calculations rests on this complete presumption with no actual empirical evidence. – That’s where you’re wrong, kiddo.

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By: Pete R https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6170 Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:23:21 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6170 We supposedly are observing light that has traveled from a distant point in space from the origin of the big bang, which IS theorized to have occurred from a single point in space, and the presumption is an expansion of space that was instantaneous. Otherwise, if space expanded not faster than the speed of light, how could we observe the origin at all, having traveled with the expansion? If the expansion was instantaneous, why is it stated that space continues to expand? The very foundation of classical physics calculations rests on this complete presumption with no actual empirical evidence.

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By: David Westling https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6160 Fri, 13 Jul 2018 02:44:57 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6160 All concepts arise from the equation of unequal things.

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By: Kalyan P https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6159 Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:12:25 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6159 Thanks for the flashy reply. Is there a possibility that they might still be happening?

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By: Brian Koberlein https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/#comment-6158 Tue, 10 Jul 2018 18:27:58 +0000 https://briankoberlein.com/?p=4527#comment-6158 It happened everywhere, it didn’t radiate from a single point in space.

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